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Where do you think you would go after you die?

 
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Uriah



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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 5:24 am    Post subject: Where do you think you would go after you die? Reply with quote

If there was a Heaven or Hell, which one do you think you would you go to after you die?
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Uriah and Welcome to the Forum

You wrote:

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If there was a Heaven or Hell, which one do you think you would you go to after you die?


A very interesting question to ask and one which evidently shows a deep concern.

For me, and I think most "religions" would agree:

Heaven is a place reserved for lovers and for those who have nothing but love and truth in their hearts

Since Heaven is a Blessed place it is for those who share their blessings with others

for souls who are not prejudiced, biased or selfish ...

for the ones whose minds and hearts are open to love the rich and the poor---

and a place where you'll find

every beautiful thing under heaven

But one thing I'm sure is ...

"If there was a Heaven"

it is definitely NOT a place for RELIGIOUS DEBATES and POLITICS ...

It is a kingdom of LIGHT

where the lights of the world (or those who lived exemplary lives) are ...

deists, christians, buddhists, muslims, atheists, agnostics, pantheists, spiritualists ... regardless

Hell, on the other hand, is a place for those people who are devoid of love and affection towards their fellow human beings even as prison cells here on earth are for criminals and lawbreakers regardless of sex, chaste, color AND creed.

Hell is the absence of love and where hate is everywhere present.

Hell is a place for the preoccupied as well as the HYPOCRITES ...

Or those who appear beautiful on the OUTSIDE but ugly on the INSIDE.

for the reprobates

rapists, wicked doers, opportunists ...

and every ugly thing you could think of ...

So since I've got nothing but love and tolerance in my heart, I can say with all confidence that I'll go to the place where love reigns ... heaven.

(although I am no part of your religious group)

Because God (based on the christian scriptures):

"... is NOT partial, but in EVERY nation the man that fears him and WORKS righteousness is ACCEPTABLE to him."

And CONSIDERABLY because ALL people aren't BORN into the christian religion and aren't always CONVERTED to christianity BEFORE they die ...

So, if there would be a coming day of resurrection

Ac. 10:34-35

"Many of those sleeping on the dust of the earth shall awake ..."

Da. 12:2

"... and come out, those who DID good things to the resurrection of LIFE, and those who PRACTICED vile things to a resurrection of judgment."

Joh. 5:29

And to quote from one Jewish source:

"Before the Creator's Throne there is NO difference between Jews AND Pagans, since among the latter (ie. the pagans) there are MANY noble AND virtuous."

Rosh Ha Shanah 1:57a

And in the gnostic Gospel of Thomas vs. 70 Jesus said:

That which you have will save you if you bring it forth from yourselves.

So that means if you've got LOVE, LOVE is sufficient enough to SAVE you.

Therefore, if all the abovequoted passages were true, how miserable would it be for those who think that they could gain a "free passport" to heaven only because they're christians ...

"No, indeed, I tell YOU; but unless you repent, (or to change to something better) YOU will ALL likewise be destroyed."

Luke 13:3

For a fraction of a moment, let's assume that heaven IS real.

If so then, I'd wish to quote a personal testimony I've read from a Near-Death Experiencer:

"A lot of people I know are going to be surprised when they find out that the Lord ISN'T interested in theology. He seems to find some of it amusing, as a matter of fact, because he WASN'T interested at all in ANYTHING about my denomination. He wanted to know what was in my HEART, NOT MY HEAD.

---The Light Beyond

Let's read another one:

"They say if you're NOT a Christian NONE of you will be able to come in through the eye of the needle, and all that sort of thing. And I think, well, I went up there and I saw it and I certainly WASN'T a Christian at the time. So HOW do they know? So I can't accept it. I've got my own beliefs and I try to live MY way.

---Changes in Religious Beliefs, Attitudes, and Practices Following Near Death Experiences: An Australian Study.

[I was asked] Have you learned to love?

---"The Light Beyond"

What did you DO with your life?

---Return from Tomorrow

It's the little things---maybe a hurt child that you HELPED or just to stop to say hello to a shut in. Those are the things that are MOST important.

---Heading Towards Omega

All EMPHASIS Mine


You may want to read more of it in the book entitled "VISIONS OF GOD from the NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE" by Ken R. Vincent

Now if you're going to dismiss all these claims as false simply because they go contrary to your beliefs and accept Christian (much less your groups') testimony of Heaven ALONE as VALID ... wouldn't that be BIASED?

Think, beloved.

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With all that being said, can I now have my turn to ask?

"If there was a Heaven" ...

How CERTAIN are you that you'll find the Christian God up there and NOT some OTHER god like ALLAH---the god of Islam, or the gods of the Hindus, Shintoists, etc?

WHAT IF ...

Allah was the TRUE God, do you think he would cast you to HELL just because you weren't a MUSLIM?

IF Islam is the True religion ...

to quote your own question:

Quote:
"which one do you think you would you go to after you die?"


and

IF God is true ...

Is He or She a DENOMINATIONAL deity?

Can God (the "embodiment" of Love) be defined by ONLY one religion?

Can you "limit" G-O-D to your OWN church, sect or denomination?

What is the "color," "shape," "size" and "texture" of "Love"?

Or is there any?

Can you measure the immeasurable?

Can your religion describe the indescribable?

Can Loves Beauty be painted by human hands?

Think with your Heart where Love sits

then you'll find the answer ...

Open your "eyes" to the "beauty" that surrounds you

Heaven is where your heart is,
Angel Rai


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Here are some words from a church wall in Upwaltham England that I wish to leave with you before I go

I will not wish thee riches, nor the glow of greatness,
But that wherever thou go some weary heart shall gladden at thy smile,
Or shadowed life know sunshine for a while. And so thy path shall be
A track of light like angel's footsteps passing through the night.

Ces't La Vie! Wink

Angel Rai



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow... i like this
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